Ulei motor ll01 sau ll04

[13NCU]

12 hours ago, bimmer90f30 said:

 

..Poate ca un indicator de trecere la ulei mai gros ar trebui sa fie consumul de ulei....

 

Iti acord circumstante atenuante pt acel "poate" din fata, in rest afirmatia e doar folclor mioritic.

Eu cred ca la multi le scapa din vedere un aspec foarte important:

- scopul nu e sa nu-l consume, SCOPUL e SA AI UNGERE si RACIRE !

...dar romanu' isi freaca palmele fericit ca a trecut pe o marmelada si a scapat de "marea cheltuiala" de 1-2 litri ulei completat intre schimburi fara sa inteleaga ce a facut de fapt !

Ce a facut OldGuy ?

A trecut de la 5w30 la 0w40 - o miscare absolut inteligenta pe timp geros.

0w ii permite o pornire usoara si o lubrifiere rapida a motorului pe timp geros stiindu-se ca asta e momentul critic din viata unui motor.

"40" - ii da o mica consistenta in plus uleiului in fierbinteala, necesara motoarelor mai surmenate.

Aceeasi miscare o am in plan si eu, doar ca ma voi rezuma la trecerea de la 5w30 la 5w40, pe un A3/B4 si norma BMW LL-01 pt ca nu am DPF si fac ce vreau eu.

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by 13NCU

[Old Guy]

16 hours ago, 13NCU said:

1. ...si mai apreciez ca s-a extras din "imparatia" Castrol, un ulei care nu l-as baga in motorul meu nici daca mi l-ai da gratis.

2. Despre manualul BMW (cel putin la m47) ...scuze, dar daca as fi facut parte din echipa BMW marketing, l-as fi retras de pe piata cu scuzele de rigoare. Si majoritatea de pe aici stiu la ce ma refer.

3. In plus, uleiul lui OldGui are aprobarea BMW LL-01 ori presupun ca cei de la BMW nu au fost "fumați" cand i-au acordat lui Wolf 0w40 aprobarea asta.

1. Cu Castrol am cumparat masina (din Italia). Avea 5W40, nu stiu ce varianta. Eu i-am bagat initial Ravenol VST 5W40, apoi uleiul brand BMW 5W30 LL-04 (adica Shell Helix Ultra, probabil versiunea ECT-3). Dar dorind o pornire mai facila iarna, cu consum mai mic etc, am zis sa trec la 0W40. 

2. Am manualul pt America. La 320D specifica doar normele de aditivare, citez : "Diesel engines: Preferred: BMW Longlife-01 >Alternatively: BMW Longlife-98, BMW Longlife, ACEA A3/B3 or ACEA A3/B4." 

3. Am vrut LL-01 in ideea ca are mai mult ZDDP pt mosul meu si ca nu are rost sa platesc pt o aditivare dedicata DPF, din moment ce nu am DPF. 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Old Guy

[bimmer90f30]

17 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Nu, nu am vreun citat oficial sau o poza de manual.

Pt mine, am doua tipuri de dovezi : ce am citit de-a lungul timpului despre subiect si discutii directe cu utilizatorii acestor vascozitati. 

Acum pun eu intrebarea : ai vreo dovada ca afirmatia mea e gresita ? 

Nu, eu am pus intrebarea indreptatit fiind SA BALANSEZ afirmatia ta, dupa informarea din sursa oficiala.

Edited January 15, 2022 by bimmer90f30
Completarea ideii

[Old Guy]

Aha, am inteles. Rectific postarea : 
"Pai, la M47, cel putin, cred/presupun eu, BMW indica 4 vascozitati : 0W30, 0W40, 5W30, 5W40."
 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Old Guy

[bimmer90f30]

23 minutes ago, 13NCU said:

 

Ce a facut OldGuy ?

A trecut de la 5w30 la 0w40 - o miscare absolut inteligenta pe timp geros.

0w ii permite o pornire usoara si o lubrifiere rapida a motorului pe timp geros stiindu-se ca asta e momentul critic din viata unui motor.

"40" - ii da o mica consistenta in plus uleiului in fierbinteala, necesara motoarelor mai surmenate.

Aceeasi miscare o am in plan si eu, doar ca ma voi rezuma la trecerea de la 5w30 la 5w40, pe un A3/B4 si norma BMW LL-01 pt ca nu am DPF si fac ce vreau eu.

 

Deci ce a facut OldGuy a facut sa treaca la un ulei SI MAI SUBTIRE LA RECE decat zice fabricantul cand multe metale sunt deja "barbierite" din tolerantele motorului.. avand in vedere km (multi) facuti.. deci a procedat corect dupa parerea ta!?

No, macar acum stie..

 

Da, am pus "poate" acela pentru un anume motiv de incertitudine.

Edited January 15, 2022 by bimmer90f30

[Old Guy]

4 minutes ago, bimmer90f30 said:

decat zice fabricantul

Hai cu zicerea aia a fabricantului ! Sau presupui si tu ca mine ? 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Old Guy

[13NCU]

7 minutes ago, bimmer90f30 said:

Deci ce a facut OldGuy a facut sa treaca la un ulei SI MAI SUBTIRE LA RECE decat zice fabricantul cand multe metale sunt deja "barbierite" din tolerantele motorului.. avand in vedere km (multi) facuti.. deci a procedat corect dupa parerea ta!?

No, macar acum stie..

 

Da, am pus "poate" acela pentru un anume motiv de incertitudine.

Da, ai inteles corect dar nu ai interpretat cum trebuie.

A trecut pe un ulei mai subtire la rece fix in momentul cand acel ulei e deja ingrosat de frig.

Asta e ideea lui 0w40 - ulei mai pompabil la pornire si pe masura ce se incalzeste ajunge sa se comporte precum un 5w40.

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by 13NCU

[Old Guy]

Exact asta am dorit. Sa acoper o plaja de uzura cat mai mare, avand o economie de combustibil la rece, cu un ulei pt o masina Euro 3 fara DPF. Cand a fost sa aleg producatorul uleiului, am luat-o de jos in sus, ca pret, reputatie si originalitate. Am zis ca belgienii astia, cu o singura fabricuta si doar 60 de ani experienta, e mai putin probabil sa fie falsificati si sa-mi ceara bani ca barosanii consacrati. 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Old Guy

[bimmer90f30]

11 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Hai cu zicerea aia a fabricantului ! Sau presupui si tu ca mine ? 

Uite asa, la prima plesneala, ca e aproape imposibil de rearanjat. Tin sa spun ca e de pe bmw TIS.

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Shell Helix Ultra Professional AB-LSAE 5W-30Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.

Shell Helix Ultra Professional AM-LSAE 5W-30Shell International Petroleum Company

Specialsynth GoldSAE 5W-30PHI OIL GmbH

Specialsynth GoldSAE 5W-40Phi Oil GmbH

Swd Rheinol Primus DXSAE 5W-30Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co. KG

Swd Rheinol Primus LLXSAE 5W-30Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co. KG

SynPower MST C3SAE 5W-40Valvoline EMEA

Synergy Synthetic EuroSynSAE 5W-40Northland Products Company

TBO&S Action Engine OilSAE 5W-30TBO&S

Tecar Leichtlauf engine oilSAE 5W-40Techno-Einkauf GmbH

Tecar Leichtlauf engine oilSAE 5W-40TECAR International GmbH

TECAR Engine Oil Special 50400/50700SAE 5W-30Techno-Einkauf GmbH

TECAR Special DXII engine oilSAE 5W-30Techno-Einkauf GmbH

TECTROL SPEED 530SAE 5W-30BayWa AG

TECTROL SPEED LL 530SAE 5W-30BayWa

TECTROL SPEED LL 530SAE 5W-30BayWa AG

TITAN Supersyn BSAE 5W-30Fuchs Petrolub SE

TOTAL QUARTZ INEO MC3SAE 5W-30Total Lubrifiants

TSHSAE 5W-40Minerva Oil SAS

TSVSAE 5W-30MINERVA-OIL SAS

Tamoil Sint Future EnergySAE 5W-30Tamoil Italia S.p.A.

Tamoil Sint Future ExtraSAE 5W-40Tamoil Italia S.p.A.

Texaco Havoline Ultra VSAE 5W-30Chevron Global Lubricants

Titan GT1SAE 5W-40Fuchs Petrolub AG

Titan GT1 Pro FlexSAE 5W-30Fuchs Petrolub AG

Titan GT1 Pro GasSAE 5W-40Fuchs Petrolub AG

Titan GT1 Pro GasSAE 5W-30Fuchs Petrolub AG

Tor Extendo NFSAE 5W-30De Oliebron BV

Tor Prolong LSPSAE 5W-30De Oliebron BV

Tor Specialsynth BL4SAE 0W-30De Oliebron BV

Tor Specialsynth NFSAE 5W-30De Oliebron BV

Tor Specialsynth NFSAE 5W-40Tor Specialsynth NF

Total Activa Ineo Long LifeSAE 5W-30Total Lubrifiants

Total Quartz INEO MC3SAE 5W-40Total

Total Quartz INEO MC3SAE 5W-30Total

Total Quartz Ineo EfficiencySAE 0W-30Total

Total Quartz INEO Long LifeSAE 5W-30Total Lubrifiants

Triathlon Endurance IIISAE 5W-30Adolf Würth GmbH

Triathlon Endurance IIISAE 5W-30Adolf Würth GmbH & Co. KG

Triathlon PerformanceSAE 5W-40Adolf Würth GmbH & Co. KG

Ultron RaceSAE 5W-40Petron Corporation

Valvoline Advanced MSTSAE 5W-40Valvoline

Valvoline Advanced XL-IIISAE 5W-30Valvoline

Valvoline SynPower MSTSAE 5W-40Valvoline

Valvoline SynPower MSTSAE 5W-30Valvoline

Valvoline SynPower XL-IIISAE 5W-30Valvoline

Valvoline SynPower MSTC3SAE 5W-30Valvoline

Valvoline VPS Combi C3 SAE 5W-30 SyntheticSAE 5W-30Valvoline

Veedol Powertron UltraSAE 5W-40Veedol International

Veedol Sintron C3SAE 5W-30Veedol International

Veedol Sintron LongLife IIISAE 5W-30Veedol International

Velox Ultra SXSAE 5W-30Agean Oil SA

Wave Power LESAE 5W-30Transnational Blenders B.V.

Wave Power LLSAE 5W-30North Sea Lubricants B.V.

Westfalen LIFETRONSAE 5W-30Westfalen AG

Wolf Masterlube Synflow Longlife IIISAE 5W-30Wolf Oil Corporation N.V.

Wolf Officialtech 5W-30 C3SAE 5W-30Wolf Oil Corporation N.V.

Wolf Officialtech 5W-30 LL IIISAE 5W-30Wolf Oil Corporation N.V.

XADO ATOMIC OIL 5W-40 SM/CFSAE 5W-40XADO LUBE B.V.

XTAR 5W30 504 507SAE 5W-30CEPSA Comercial Petóleo, S.A.

XTAR 5W30 C3/D2 DPFSAE 5W-30CEPSA Comercial Petroleo S.A.U

XTC S9SAE 5W-30Bardahl Asia Pacific Pte Ltd

XTeer TOP 5W30SAE 5W-30HYUNDAI OILBANK CO.LTD

YACCO LUBE DESAE 5W-30Yacco S.A.S.

Yacco Lube DESAE 0W-30Yacco S.A.S.

Yacco VX 1000 FAPSAE 5W-40Yacco S.A.S.

ZIC A+SAE 5W-30SK Energy Co., Ltd

ZIC XQ LSSAE 5W-30SK Lubricants

ZIC XQ RVSAE 5W-40SK Energy Co., Ltd

ad-High Tech 5W-30 Longlife IIISAE 5W-30CARAT GmbH & Co.KG

ad-High Tech 5W-30 Longlife IIISAE 5W-30CARAT Systementw.- und Marketing GmbH & Co. KG

ad-High Tech 5W-30 d2SAE 5W-30CARAT Systementw.- und Marketing GmbH & Co. KG

ad-High Tech 5W--40 DPFSAE 5W-40CARAT Systementw.- und Marketing GmbH & Co.KG

eni i-SintSAE 5W-30eni Schmiertechnik GmbH

eni i-Sint MSSAE 5W-40eni Schmiertechnik GmbH

eni i-Sint MSSAE 5W-30eni Schmiertechnik GmbH

masteroil c-tec power varioSAE 5W-30masteroil GmbH

megol Motorenoel CompatibleSAE 5W-30Meguin GmbH & Co. KG

megol Engine Oil EfficiencySAE 5W-30Meguin GmbH & Co. KG

megol Engine Oil Efficiency GSAE 5W-30Meguin GmbH & Co. KG

megol Engine Oil Low EmissionSAE 5W-40Meguin GmbH & Co. KG

megol Engine Oil New GenerationSAE 5W-30Meguin GmbH & Co. KG

multilub 5W-40 DPFSAE 5W-40Globus Fachmärkte GmbH & Co. KG

swd Primus DXMSAE 5W-40

 

 

[Old Guy]

17 minutes ago, bimmer90f30 said:

Deci ce a facut OldGuy a facut sa treaca la un ulei SI MAI SUBTIRE LA RECE decat zice fabricantul cand multe metale sunt deja "barbierite" din tolerantele motorului.. avand in vedere km (multi) facuti.. 

Vezi ca BMW vinde ulei 0W40 LL-01, branduit de ei, cu mentiunea pt motoarele M. Astea numai motoare cu uzura mica nu sunt. 

[Old Guy]

"Aral SuperTronicSAE 0W-40Aral

Aral SuperTronic DieselSAE 0W-40Aral

Castrol EdgeSAE 0W-40Castrol Limited

Castrol EdgeSAE 0W-30Castrol Limited"

Vai, nu pot sa cred... Da, multumesc ! 

[13NCU]

10 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Exact asta am dorit. Sa acoper o plaja de uzura cat mai mare, avand o economie de combustibil la rece, cu un ulei pt o masina Euro 3 fara DPF. Cand a fost sa aleg producatorul uleiului, am luat-o de jos in sus, ca pret, reputatie si originalitate. Am zis ca belgienii astia, cu o singura fabricuta si doar 60 de ani experienta, e mai putin probabil sa fie falsificati si sa-mi ceara bani ca barosanii consacrati. 

Si eu m-am uitat indelung dupa un 0w40, A3/B4 si un TBN de peste 10 dar ca si "fan" Liqui Moly m-am lasat pagubas.

Sortimentul lor de 0w40 costa peste 300 lei 5 litri si mi s-a parut cam mult.

Edited January 15, 2022 by 13NCU

[bimmer90f30]

Sa vad unde scrie atat ca 0w40 e uli de folosit... in mod  curent..?

[13NCU]

Amu Bimmer, serios, la ce naiba ai facut atata poluare electronica cu lista aia !

Crezi ca sta cineva sa o citeasca ?

Cu cuvintele tale nu te descurci ?

[Old Guy]

Shell Helix Ultra 0W-40 | Shell Global

Initial, m-am uitat la asta. Dar nu am vazut BMW LL pe el. 

[bimmer90f30]

8 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

"Aral SuperTronicSAE 0W-40Aral

Aral SuperTronic DieselSAE 0W-40Aral

Castrol EdgeSAE 0W-40Castrol Limited

Castrol EdgeSAE 0W-30Castrol Limited"

Vai, nu pot sa cred... Da, multumesc ! 

Daca aste te multumeste, dai inainte.. 

 

Pricepe ca nu e chiar asa cum crezi. BMW recomanda LL04 pentru DPF. 

OK, tu nu ai, dar nu recomanda ce nu trebuie altora!

Ce este in ALBASTRU este ce RECOMANDA. Punct.

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by bimmer90f30

[Old Guy]

7 minutes ago, bimmer90f30 said:

Sa vad unde scrie atat ca 0w40 e uli de folosit... in mod  curent..?

Solicitarea ta e o divagatie. As putea si eu sa-ti cer unde apare mentiunea in mod ne...curent ?
Cat timp apare 0W30 si 0W40 acolo, case closed. 

[Old Guy]

" nu recomanda ce nu trebuie altora!" 

Poti cita unde recomand eu altora, cu motoare diferite si DPF ? 

[bimmer90f30]

1 minute ago, Old Guy said:

Solicitarea ta e o divagatie. As putea si eu sa-ti cer unde apare mentiunea in mod ne...curent ?
Cat timp apare 0W30 si 0W40 acolo, case closed. 

Nu e nici o divagatie. 

E doar ce vrei TU sa intelegi!

[13NCU]

6 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

 

Sincer, eu nu prea ma dau in vant dupa aprobarile lu' peste. Daca imi place fisa tehnica a unui ulei, daca pretul pare corect si certificarile sunt ok, nu prea ma impiedic ca nu are si aprobarea producatorului masinii mele. 

N-am vazut motoare care sa strambe din nas ca au primit un ulei corect dar fara aprobarea constructorului.

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by 13NCU

[Old Guy]

Da, si eu m-am gandit la asta, deoarece am vazut ca are A3/B4 si MB 229.5, astia din urma fiind foarte exigenti.  

[Old Guy]

18 minutes ago, bimmer90f30 said:

Nu e nici o divagatie. 

E doar ce vrei TU sa intelegi!

Inteleg ca la urmatorul schimb vei incerca si tu 0W40, apoi ne intalnim aici sa ne impartasim experientele. 

[Old Guy]

SHELL HELIX ULTRA 0W40 la litru, se gaseste pe net si la 36 lei. Deci 180 lei 5 litri. Foarte tentant. 

[bimmer90f30]

5 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Inteleg ca la urmatorul schimb vei incerca si tu 0W40, apoi ne intalnim aici sa ne impartasim experientele. 

Nu, complet gresit. Eu merg pe 5W40 pana la sfarsit aproape pe aceleasi considerente ca ale tale.

Nu schimb nimic.

Doua tipuri de ulei am folosit, si ncu stie bine care sunt ca am avut o disputa candva.. si asa ramane. 

Putin :offtopic: la un Xdrive cu 100k km pun deocamdata 0w30 C3 doar pentru ca asa cere fabricantul. Voi vedea ce se intampla in viitor cu acesta. In cel mai rau caz trec la 5w30 vara si 0w30 iarna.. pentru ca unii au remarcat un tremurat (fizic) al motorului cu 5w30 iarna.

[13NCU]

Ce te-a facut sa mergi pe 5w40 in defavoarea lui 30 ?