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N47 Efficient Dynamics 163cp e similar dpdv constructiv  cu varianta de 184 cp.

Plusuri:

- consum mic (consum de logan 1.5DCI 😁)

- clapetele de la galeria de admisie se schimba separat cu costuri mici (aprox 250 lei rampa dr clapete pe original) fata de celelalte variante unde se schimba cu totul.

- poate fi urcat usor la 184cp

 

Contra:

- este foarte joasa! Garda la sol este sensibil micsorata fata de varianta normala. Cateodata e chin sa menajezi masina pe drumuri proaste pe care nu ai cum sa le eviti.

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Nu s-au observat diferente iin cheltuieli cu intretinerea intre diferitele modele din intrebarea ta.

DAR daca as avea bani de un ED as da banii pe un ED pentru ca un ED are tre moduri de conducere in timp ce, 320d "simplu" e acelasi doar dupa cat de mult tragi de el...

Poate la suspensii, daca are suspensie adaptiva o sa fie ceva cheltuieli in plus cand se strica..

 

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@MihaiGSM Multumesc pentru raspuns. Foarte de ajutor.

Din cate am vazut in specificatii nu cred ca se merita urcat la 184cp. Diferenta de putere nu pare sa fie semnificativa. 

Ai idee de ce a fost micsorata garda la sol? 

@bimmer90f30 Multumesc pentru raspuns. Te referi la modurile de condus eco, comfort, sport? Alea sunt si pe 320d simplu.

 

Pretul nu e diferit din cate vad. Si 320d si 320d ED se invart pe la acelasi pret.

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Are garda putin mai joasa pt o aerodinamica mai buna, deci consum mai mic. 
ED are regenerare la franare, greutate putin mai mica, Eco Pro obligatoriu, functie de coasting si cutie de directie obligatoriu electrica.

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2 hours ago, bimmer90f30 said:

Nu s-au observat diferente iin cheltuieli cu intretinerea intre diferitele modele din intrebarea ta.

DAR daca as avea bani de un ED as da banii pe un ED pentru ca un ED are tre moduri de conducere in timp ce, 320d "simplu" e acelasi doar dupa cat de mult tragi de el...

Poate la suspensii, daca are suspensie adaptiva o sa fie ceva cheltuieli in plus cand se strica..

 

Adica cum are 3 moduri de condus ? Sigur nu are suspensie adaptiva.

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3 hours ago, MihaiGSM said:

N47 Efficient Dynamics 163cp e similar dpdv constructiv  cu varianta de 184 cp.

Plusuri:

- consum mic (consum de logan 1.5DCI 😁)

- clapetele de la galeria de admisie se schimba separat cu costuri mici (aprox 250 lei rampa dr clapete pe original) fata de celelalte variante unde se schimba cu totul.

- poate fi urcat usor la 184cp

 

Contra:

- este foarte joasa! Garda la sol este sensibil micsorata fata de varianta normala. Cateodata e chin sa menajezi masina pe drumuri proaste pe care nu ai cum sa le eviti.

Ce are garda la sol cu motorul?

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Viper05,

Ce are solul cu garda la motor? 😃

Eu am explicat ca difera garda la sol a versiunii cu Efficient Dynamics fata de cea standard. E cu cativa cm mai joasa.

Acum, ar fi util ca initiatorul sa ne precizeze si la ce model se refera mai exact, F30 sau E90?

Eu de ex sunt posesor de E91, cutie manuala, Efficient Dynamics 163cp, dar nu am moduri selectabile de condus si nici nu stiu sa fie pe E90, poate doar pe cutie automata.

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6 hours ago, Dens said:

Te referi la modurile de condus eco, comfort, sport? Alea sunt si pe 320d simplu.

Eu din cate stiu si m-a interesat cam toate modele cu ED au 3 moduri de lucru al DDE-ului. Acum  ca au scos modele care au Eco-Pro sau Eco.. e cam aceiasi branza... intelegi ideea. 

Cand am zis 320d simplu m-am referit la acel model fara vreun alt mod de lucru. Ma gandesc ca intrebarea din topic la aceste doua diferite modele s-a referit. Nu ca un 320d simplu, in intelesul tau e mai putin complex, adica risopitor de bani decat un ED. 

Ca sa intelegi, ei pot sa le numeasca in fel si chip ca sa atraga clientii.. tu trebuie sa fii istetul care stie sa aleaga ce ii trebuie si ce isi permite.

Desigur rasspunsuri pot veni si de la altii mai abili in a distinge modelele facute de bmw... asa ca poate ei te pot lamuri mai bine.. cunsotintele mele sunt limitate si vreau sa cred, cat mai simplu de retinut.

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5 hours ago, DJ Allexinno said:

Are garda putin mai joasa pt o aerodinamica mai buna, deci consum mai mic. 
ED are regenerare la franare, greutate putin mai mica, Eco Pro obligatoriu, functie de coasting si cutie de directie obligatoriu electrica.

Eu as spune ca are garda joasa mai mult pentru o stabilitate mai buna in alte moduri..

ED-ul nu cumva vine cu maxim jante pe maxim 17inch? Exista un motiv pentru asta..

Apoi  care e diferemta intre coasting si regenerare la franare? Si daca are directie asistata electric ce influienta are in afara de faptul ca directia e mai priecisa in alte moduri si "barca" in modul ECO..?

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Nasul meu are un F30 ED.

Consumul chiar este mic, când merge pana in 100 km/h in afara scoate consumuri între 3.9-4.4. 
 

Are funcția de ECO-comfort-sport care țin de suspensie si motor, se simte cum mașina te împinge puțin in fata cand ai dat pe “sport” din “comfort”. 
Cutia este manuala. 
 

Singurul lucru contra, tine de jante pe care legal le poți pune maxim de 16-17. 
Nu mai țin minte daca nu chiar 16 poți pune maxim. 
Noi ne am uitat pe un F30 normal si am ales o varianta de roti pe 17 cu o combinație pentru modelul asta. 
In certificat nu scrie de roti si am sters adezivul ala de pe stalp unde scrie ce poți pune. 
 

I am zis ca putem comanda unul original cu toate dimensiunile la anvelope ca sa fii cat mai acoperit. 
A avut inclusiv talonul luat din cauza ca a uitat de itp si la Itp nu a comentat nimeni nimic de rotile pe 17 :)). 

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6 hours ago, bimmer90f30 said:

Eu as spune ca are garda joasa mai mult pentru o stabilitate mai buna in alte moduri..

ED-ul nu cumva vine cu maxim jante pe maxim 17inch? Exista un motiv pentru asta..

Apoi  care e diferemta intre coasting si regenerare la franare? Si daca are directie asistata electric ce influienta are in afara de faptul ca directia e mai priecisa in alte moduri si "barca" in modul ECO..?

Gasesti detalii pe internet despre ce am scris mai sus… nu le-am scos din burta. Doar trebuie sa cauti.

Brake energy regeneration
Using technology developed in Formula One racing, this feature harnesses the energy that’s usually lost when you brake. The system converts it to electrical energy which charges your battery instead, meaning the engine does less work and uses less fuel. 
 

Coasting function
Also part of ECO PRO, this function cuts the power between the engine and drive in automatic cars, the second that the driver takes their foot of the accelerator without braking. This then allows the vehicle to ‘coast’ freely without resistance from the engine, using up less fuel and therefore reducing emissions in the process. 

Electric power steering
The electric motor that powers this system is only fired up when you move the steering wheel, meaning less energy is used when you’re driving straight or through a long corner.
 

EfficientLightweight and aerodynamics
BMW is now using carbon more widely in the production of their cars, or carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP) to be precise. Around 30% lighter than aluminium and 50% lighter than steel, it still provides exceptional protection. Along with lots of design improvements when it comes to aerodynamics, it creates a highly stable body and greater safety, plus improved handling and lower fuel consumption due to the weight loss. 


ECO PRO mode
If you don’t feel like adjusting your driving style to gain better efficiency, ECO PRO mode will do all the work for you, allowing you to save up to 20% of fuel without doing anything yourself. The amount you save is converted into a mileage on your display, giving you an instant indicator of how much more you’re getting out of your fuel tank. 
 

 

  • Active air stream kidney grille - the grille automatically opens its vents when parts of the car need air. When they don't, it closes and allows air to flow over the body, reducing resistance. 
  • Air curtain & air breather - at the bottom and sides of the car are two smaller vents that control air as your vehicle accelerates. Both of these features let the air fly through and prevent air resistance. Drag is also reduced, allowing the car to continue accelerating while using less fuel. 
  • Aero wheel rims - the wheels act as a wind turbine to guide the airflow along the sides of the vehicle, creating the perfect air channel. Again, this boosts aerodynamics by letting the car cut smoothly through any air resistance. 
  • Rear spoiler and air blade - both of these features combine to reduce drag and stop the rear axle from rising up at increased speeds. In essence, they keep your car firmly on the ground, reducing energy demands. The engine doesn't have to fight as hard against air resistance, so less fuel is consumed. 
     
  • Brake energy regeneration - this technology reuses the kinetic energy that's generated when you brake. It takes the energy and puts it back into the car battery, stopping it from depleting. In turn, this also stops the engine from working hard to charge the battery, lowering fuel consumption. 
  • Electric power steering - an electric motor is used to create a more efficient power steering system that demands less energy. When driving in a straight line, the power steering function automatically turns off so no energy is used whatsoever, until you start turning. 
  • Coasting function - this feature is reserved for automatic vehicles as it cuts off the power between the engine and drive. It kicks in when you lift your foot off the accelerator pedal but don't brake. Essentially, it turns the engine off, so you coast along without using any additional fuel. 
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Si F30-ul standard are tot ce e scris cu bold mai sus..coasting, regenerare, eco pro, etc.

Diferentele sunt suspensiile mai joase, rapoartele cutiei, jantele de 16" (te limiteaza la 16"), grilele active si softul motorului. 

Justificarea modelului e pentru pietele din vest - flote sau pers. fizice pentru care taxarea e importanta. Emite mai putin CO2 si are consum mai mic.

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