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Bmw Seria 3 vs Mercedes C-Class vs Audi A4

 

BMW 320i (E90) , Weight 1395 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1995 cc , Maximum power 150.1 PS (148.0 bhp) (110.4 kW) , Maximum torque 200.0 Nm (148 ft·lb) (20.4 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 9.00 s , Top speed 220 km/h (137 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=125466

 

Mercedes C 200 Kompressor , Weight 1490 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1796 cc , Maximum power 183.5 PS (181.0 bhp) (135 kW) , Maximum torque 250.0 Nm (184 ft·lb) (25.5 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.60 s , Top speed 235 km/h (146 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=152801

 

Audi A4 1.8 TFSI , Weight 1410 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1798 cc , Maximum power 160.2 PS (158.0 bhp) (117.8 kW) , Maximum torque 250.0 Nm (184 ft·lb) (25.5 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.60 s , Top speed 225 km/h (140 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=161150

 

 

 

Bmw 320d (E90) , Weight 1490 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1995 cc , Maximum power 163.2 PS (161.0 bhp) (120.1 kW) , Maximum torque 340.0 Nm (251 ft·lb) (34.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.40 s , Top speed 225 km/h (140 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=125389

 

Mercedes C 220 CDI , Weight 1585 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 2148 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 400.0 Nm (295 ft·lb) (40.8 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.50 s , Top speed 229 km/h (142 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=152845

 

Audi A4 2.0 TDI , Weight 1450 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1968 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 350.0 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.60 s , Top speed 228 km/h (142 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=141262

 

 

 

BMW 330i (E90) , Weight 1525 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2996 cc , Maximum power 257.5 PS (254.0 bhp) (189.4 kW) , Maximum torque 300.0 Nm (221 ft·lb) (30.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.10 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=125367

 

Mercedes C 280 , Weight 1555 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2996 cc , Maximum power 231.2 PS (228.0 bhp) (170 kW) , Maximum torque 300.0 Nm (221 ft·lb) (30.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.30 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=152823

 

Audi A4 3.2 FSI quattro , Weight 1580 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 3197 cc , Maximum power 264.6 PS (261.0 bhp) (194.6 kW) , Maximum torque 330.0 Nm (243 ft·lb) (33.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.20 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=161436

 

 

 

BMW 330d (E90) , Weight 1610 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2993 cc , Maximum power 231.2 PS (228.0 bhp) (170 kW) , Maximum torque 500.0 Nm (369 ft·lb) (51 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.70 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=161689

 

Mercedes-Benz C 320 CDI , Weight 1700 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2987 cc , Maximum power 224.1 PS (221.0 bhp) (164.8 kW) , Maximum torque 510.0 Nm (376 ft·lb) (52 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.70 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=152812

 

Audi A4 3.0 TDI quattro , Weight 1655 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2967 cc , Maximum power 239.3 PS (236.0 bhp) (176 kW) , Maximum torque 500.0 Nm (369 ft·lb) (51 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.10 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=161458

 

 

Bmw Seria 5 vs Mercedes E-Class vs Audi A6

 

Bmw 520i (E60) , Weight 1535 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1995 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 210.0 Nm (155 ft·lb) (21.4 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.70 s , Top speed 224 km/h (139 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=161051

 

Mercedes-Benz E 200 Kompressor , Weight 1580 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1796 cc , Maximum power 183.5 PS (181.0 bhp) (135 kW) , Maximum torque 250.0 Nm (184 ft·lb) (25.5 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 9.10 s , Top speed 236 km/h (147 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=140987

 

Audi A6 2.0 TFSI , Weight 1520 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1984 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 280.0 Nm (207 ft·lb) (28.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.40 s ,Top speed 227 km/h (141 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=137137

 

 

 

Bmw 520d (e60) , Weight 1585 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1995 cc , Maximum power 177.4 PS (175.0 bhp) (130.5 kW) , Maximum torque 350.0 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.30 s , Top speed 231 km/h (144 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=160974

 

Mercedes E 220 CDI , Weight 1615 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 2148 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 400.0 Nm (295 ft·lb) (40.8 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.40 s , Top speed 227 km/h (141 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=140965

 

Audi A6 2.0 TDI , Weight 1540 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1968 cc , Maximum power 139.9 PS (138.0 bhp) (102.9 kW) , Maximum torque 320.0 Nm (236 ft·lb) (32.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 10.30 s , Top speed 210 km/h (130 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=169235

 

 

 

BMW 530i (E60) , Weight 1605 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2996 cc , Maximum power 271.7 PS (268.0 bhp) (199.8 kW) , Maximum torque 320.0 Nm (236 ft·lb) (32.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.30 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=151767

 

Mercedes E 350 CGI , Weight 1720 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 3498 cc , Maximum power 292 PS (288.0 bhp) (214.8 kW) , Maximum torque 365.0 Nm (269 ft·lb) (37.2 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.80 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=163493

 

Audi A6 3.2 FSI , Weight 1540 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 3123 cc , Maximum power 255 PS (251.5 bhp) (187.5 kW) , Maximum torque 330.0 Nm (243 ft·lb) (33.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.90 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=118954

 

 

 

BMW 530d (E60) , Weight 1665 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2993 cc , Maximum power 235.2 PS (232.0 bhp) (173 kW) , Maximum torque 500.0 Nm (369 ft·lb) (51 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.80 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=151668

 

Mercedes E 320 CDI , Weight 1750 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2987 cc , Maximum power 224.1 PS (221.0 bhp) (164.8 kW) , Maximum torque 540.0 Nm (398 ft·lb) (55.1 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.80 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=140448

 

Audi A6 3.0 TDI quattro , Weight 1765 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2967 cc , Maximum power 224.6 PS (221.5 bhp) (165.2 kW), Maximum torque 450.0 Nm (332 ft·lb) (45.9 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.90 s , Top speed 243 km/h (151 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=118657

 

 

Urmeaza: Bmw seria 1 vs Mercedes A-Class vs Audi A3 si Bmw seria 7 vs Mercedes S-Class vs Audi A8 :blink:

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Bmw vs Mercedes vs Audi

 

Bmw Seria 3 vs Mercedes C-Class vs Audi A4

 

BMW 320i (E90)

Mercedes C 200 Kompressor

Audi A4 1.8 TFSI

 

nu cred ca poti compara 320i cu KOMPRESOR, care aduce performante aproape ca turbo.. si am impresia ca motorul de 1.8 de pe audi e cu turbo.. stiu ca TT-u are ala de 1.8 turbo la 200 de cai..

 

compara motoare aspirate :blink:

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Bmw vs Mercedes vs Audi

 

Bmw Seria 3 vs Mercedes C-Class vs Audi A4

 

BMW 320i (E90)

Mercedes C 200 Kompressor

Audi A4 1.8 TFSI

 

nu cred ca poti compara 320i cu KOMPRESOR, care aduce performante aproape ca turbo.. si am impresia ca motorul de 1.8 de pe audi e cu turbo.. stiu ca TT-u are ala de 1.8 turbo la 200 de cai..

 

compara motoare aspirate :blink:

 

La motoarizari de cilindree mica Mercedes si Audi aveau Kompressor respectiv Turbo... nu am gasit altceva si am considerat ca sunt din acelasi categorie,evident ca trebuie luat in calcul cand ne uitam la performante ca audi e turbo si mercedes are kompressor pe cand bmw e aspirata :) .

 

Daca cineva gaseste alte motorizari care considera ca ar trebuii comparate cu e90-ul 320 poate sa intervina si sa ma corecteze :)

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Bmw Seria 1 vs Mercedes A-Class vs Audi A3

 

BMW 120i , Weight 1375 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1995 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 210.0 Nm (155 ft·lb) (21.4 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.80 s , Top speed 224 km/h (139 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=152471

 

Mercedes A 200 , Weight 1270 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 2034 cc , Maximum power 135.9 PS (134.0 bhp) (99.9 kW) , Maximum torque 185.0 Nm (136 ft·lb) (18.9 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 9.80 s , Top speed 200 km/h (124 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=122089

 

Audi A3 2.0 FSI , Weight 1345 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1984 cc , Maximum power 150.1 PS (148.0 bhp) (110.4 kW) , Maximum torque 200.0 Nm (148 ft·lb) (20.4 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 9.70 s , Top speed 209 km/h (130 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=120901

 

 

 

 

BMW 120d , Weight 1450 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1995 cc , Maximum power 177.4 PS (175.0 bhp) (130.5 kW) , Maximum torque 350.0 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.60 s , Top speed 228 km/h (142 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=152438

 

Mercedes A 200 CDI , Weight 1365 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1991 cc , Maximum power 139.9 PS (138.0 bhp) (102.9 kW) , Maximum torque 300.0 Nm (221 ft·lb) (30.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 9.50 s , Top speed 201 km/h (125 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=122067

 

Audi A3 2.0 TDi , Weight 1340 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1968 cc , Maximum power 170.3 PS (168.0 bhp) (125.3 kW) , Maximum torque 350.0 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.20 s , Top speed 222 km/h (138 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=143363

 

 

 

BMW 135i , Weight 1560 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2989 cc , Maximum power 306.2 PS (302.0 bhp) (225.2 kW) , Maximum torque 400.0 Nm (295 ft·lb) (40.8 kgm) , 0-60 mph 5.30 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=160006

 

Mercedes-Benz A 200 Turbo , Weight 1305 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 2034 cc , Maximum power 192.6 PS (190.0 bhp) (141.7 kW) , Maximum torque 280.0 Nm (207 ft·lb) (28.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 8.00 s , Top speed 227 km/h (141 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=122034

 

Audi S3 2.0 TFSI , Weight 1455 kg , Cylinders S-4 , Displacement 1984 cc , Maximum power 264.6 PS (261.0 bhp) (194.6 kW) , Maximum torque 350.0 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 5.70 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=145607

 

 

 

Bmw Seria 7 vs Mercedes S-Class vs Audi A8

 

BMW 730i , Weight 1805 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2996 cc , Maximum power 257.5 PS (254.0 bhp) (189.4 kW) , Maximum torque 300.0 Nm (221 ft·lb) (30.6 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.80 s , Top speed 244 km/h (152 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=125961

 

Mercedes S 350 , Weight 1950 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 3498 cc , Maximum power 271.7 PS (268.0 bhp) (199.8 kW) , Maximum torque 350.0 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.30 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=164802

 

Audi A8 3.2 FSI , Weight 1690 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 3123 cc , Maximum power 259.6 PS (256.0 bhp) (190.9 kW) , Maximum torque 330.0 Nm (243 ft·lb) (33.7 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.70 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=129932

 

 

 

BMW 730d , Weight 1900 kg , Cylinders S-6 , Displacement 2993 cc , Maximum power 231.2 PS (228.0 bhp) (170 kW) , Maximum torque 520.0 Nm (384 ft·lb) (53 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.80 s , Top speed 238 km/h (148 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=126005

 

Mercedes S 320 CDI , Weight 2025 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2987 cc , Maximum power 235.2 PS (232.0 bhp) (173 kW) , Maximum torque 540.0 Nm (398 ft·lb) (55.1 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.80 s , Top speed 245 km/h (152 mph).

 

Audi A8 3.0 TDI , Weight 1830 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2967 cc , Maximum power 233.2 PS (230.0 bhp) (171.5 kW) , Maximum torque 450.0 Nm (332 ft·lb) (45.9 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.80 s , Top speed 243 km/h (151 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=133650

 

 

 

BMW Alpina B7 , 500 hp , Top speed 186 mph , 100 km/h 4.8 seconds.

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/2008-BMW-Alpina-B7.html

 

Mercedes S 65 AMG , Weight 2250 kg , Cylinders V-12 , Displacement 5980 cc , Maximum power 612.4 PS (604.0 bhp) (450.4 kW) , Maximum torque 1000.0 Nm (738 ft·lb) (102 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 4.40 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=142230

 

Audi S8 5.2 FSI , Weight 1940 kg , Cylinders V-10 , Displacement 5204 cc , Maximum power 450.2 PS (444.0 bhp) (331.1 kW) , Maximum torque 540.0 Nm (398 ft·lb) (55.1 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 5.10 s , Top speed 260 km/h (162 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=135630

 

 

Urmeaza: Bmw X5 vs Mercedes ML vs Audi Q7 :blink:

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O masina buna nu are doar performante sportive, sunt o gramada de alti factori care inclina balanta spre o anumita masina.

 

Primul lucru la care cineva se uita sunt datele tehnice,de aici te indrepti spre anumite categorii de marci automobilistice,dupa urmeaza un drive test si de-abia acum intervin factorii decisivi in achizitionarea masinii (tinuta de drum,confort,calitatea materialelor, placerea creata la condus etc)...

 

Comparatiile facute in posturile anterioare NU sunt un factor decisiv in achizitionarea masinii,fiecare doreste ceva anume de la o masina,asa ca sunt irelevante din punctul asta de vedere.Sunt doar niste comparatii STRICT Tehnice.

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Da,dar datele tehnice sunt primul lucru la care te uiti,de aici te indrepti spre anumite categorii,masinile comparate sunt rivale de foarte mult timp,asta inseamna ca si comparatiile tehnice conteaza foarte mult,placerea la volan e decisiva intr-adevar.Placerea conteaza pentru fiecare in parte si e diferita,pentru o Statistica e neaprata nevoie de detalii tehnice. :blink: Edited by Alex4Tuning
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Alex4Tuning, modelul asta nu l'ai vazut? ce A6 sau E pana in 3000cc diesel are performantele astea?

 

BMW 535d, weight 1735 kg, Cylinders S-6, Displacement 2993 cc, Maximum power 285.9 PS (282.0 bhp) (210.3 kW)

@ 4400 rpm, Maximum torque 580.0 Nm (428 ft·lb) (59.1 kgm)@ 1750-2250 rpm, 0-100 km/h 6.40 s, Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph) , Fuel consumption 9.2/5.4/6.8 l/100km urban/extra-urban/combined.

 

 

si pe langa performante mai e si placerea condusului care dupa mine la BMW e cea mai mare...

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Alex4Tuning, modelul asta nu l'ai vazut? ce A6 sau E pana in 3000cc diesel are performantele astea?

 

BMW 535d, weight 1735 kg, Cylinders S-6, Displacement 2993 cc, Maximum power 285.9 PS (282.0 bhp) (210.3 kW)

@ 4400 rpm, Maximum torque 580.0 Nm (428 ft·lb) (59.1 kgm)@ 1750-2250 rpm, 0-100 km/h 6.40 s, Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph) , Fuel consumption 9.2/5.4/6.8 l/100km urban/extra-urban/combined.

 

 

si pe langa performante mai e si placerea condusului care dupa mine la BMW e cea mai mare...

 

Modelul despre care ai adus vorba nu puteam sa il includ in comparatiile pe care le-am facut,consider ca au fost bine facute asa cum sunt.Daca vrei comparam CEL MAI PUTERNIC DIESEL (Seria 5 vs A6 vs E Class) atunci situatia sta in felul urmator:

 

Mercedes E 420 CDI , Weight 1910 kg , Cylinders V-8 , Displacement 3996 cc , Maximum power 314.3 PS (310.0 bhp) (231.2 kW) , Maximum torque 730.0 Nm (538 ft·lb) (74.4 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 6.10 s , Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=140888

 

Audi A6 3.0 TDI , Weight 1765 kg , Cylinders V-6 , Displacement 2967 cc , Maximum power 224.6 PS (221.5 bhp) (165.2 kW) , Maximum torque 450.0 Nm (332 ft·lb) (45.9 kgm) , 0-100 km/h 7.90 s , Top speed 243 km/h (151 mph).

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/mod...car/?car=118657

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Pareri avizate si diverse,cum este si normal,Comparatiile facute pana acum se refara in mare parte la date tehnice si performante.Ce spuneti n-ar trebui sa extindem discutia si la comparatii privind fiabilitate,costuri intretinere,etc.?

BMW vs. ALL din toate punctele de vedere!

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Pareri avizate si diverse,cum este si normal,Comparatiile facute pana acum se refara in mare parte la date tehnice si performante.Ce spuneti n-ar trebui sa extindem discutia si la comparatii privind fiabilitate,costuri intretinere,etc.?

BMW vs. ALL din toate punctele de vedere!

lucrezi la vreo revista ceva ? televiziune , ai vreo emisiune ceva ? faci vreun sondaj in vreun ziar ? dupa cum vorbesti cu noi imi pare ceva cam ciudat :blink:

 

de ce nu faci si u treaba asta ? ne pui numa pe noi ?

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Nici una ,nici alta.A fost o propunere atata tot.Din pacate eu sant un nou membru in club si tot atat si posesor BMW si nu am atatea cunostinte ca si voi (ai fost rau).Tot din pacate am si permisul luat la primul drum de inaugurare a masinii...

Asa ca abia astept s-o pot coduce iar.Iar propunerea discutiei a fost una pur colegiala atata tot.

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mda, prin 'sondaj' daca stau sa ma gandesc am cunoscut multi oameni care au trecut de la BMW sau Audi la Mercedes si nu s-au mai intors. toti spun ca Mercedesul nu se schimba decat cu... alt Mercedes. de la 'fan' Mercedes catre BMW sau Audi... am intalnit mult mai putine cazuri.

am citit eu prea putin din topicul asta sau chiar nimeni n-a adus vorba de Lexus aici? :blink::o:o

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mda, prin 'sondaj' daca stau sa ma gandesc am cunoscut multi oameni care au trecut de la BMW sau Audi la Mercedes si nu s-au mai intors. toti spun ca Mercedesul nu se schimba decat cu... alt Mercedes. de la 'fan' Mercedes catre BMW sau Audi... am intalnit mult mai putine cazuri.

am citit eu prea putin din topicul asta sau chiar nimeni n-a adus vorba de Lexus aici? :):o:o

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