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vreau si eu sa stiu care-i treaba cu sonda lambda, ce rol are si daca pot sa circul cu masina fara aceasta sonda

mersi

[WLF]

Sonda lambda masoara nivelul de oxigen din gazele de evacuare. I se mai zice senzor de oxigen.

 

Citeste chestia asta:

 

 

In response to several requests for more information about Oxygen (O2)

sensors, perhaps the following information will help.

 

Comment:

 

These procedures are only for self powered conventional sensors.

Some very new cars are using a different style sensor that is

powered. *Many* Oxygen sensors are replaced that are good to

excellent. *Many* people don't know how to test them. They

routinely last 50,000 or more miles, and if the engine is in good

shape, can last the life of the car.

 

What does the O2 sensor do?

 

It is the primary measurement device for the fuel control computer

in your car to know if the engine is too rich or too lean. The

O2 sensor is active anytime it is hot enough, but the computer

only uses this information in the closed loop mode. Closed loop

is the operating mode where all engine control sensors including

the Oxygen sensor are used to get best fuel economy, lowest

emissions, and good power.

 

Should the O2 sensor be replaced when the sensor light comes on in

your car?

 

Probably not, but you should test it to make sure it is alive and

well. This assumes that the light you see is simply an emissions

service reminder light and not a failure light. A reminder light

is triggered by a mileage event (20-40,000 miles usually) or

something like 2000 key start cycles. EGR dash lights usually fall

into the reminder category. Consult your owners manual, auto repair

manual, dealer, or repair shop for help on what your light means.

 

How do I know if my O2 sensor may be bad?

 

If your car has lost several miles per gallon of fuel economy and

the usual tune up steps do not improve it. This *is not* a

pointer to O2 failure, it just brings up the possibility. Vacuum

leaks and ignition problems are common fuel economy destroyers.

As mentioned by others, the on board computer may also set one of

several failure "codes". If the computer has issued a code

pertaining to the O2 sensor, the sensor and it's wiring should

be tested. Usually when the sensor is bad, the engine will show

some loss of power, and will not seem to respond quickly.

 

What will damage my O2 sensor?

 

Home or professional auto repairs that have used silicone gasket

sealer that is not specifically labeled "Oxygen sensor safe",

"Sensor safe", or something similar, if used in an area that

is connected to the crankcase. This includes valve covers, oil

pan, or nearly any other gasket or seal that controls engine oil.

Leaded fuel will ruin the O2 sensor in a short time. If a car is

running rich over a long period, the sensor may become plugged up

or even destroyed. Just shorting out the sensor output wire will

not usually hurt the sensor. This simply grounds the output

voltage to zero. Once the wiring is repaired, the circuit

operates normally. Undercoating, antifreeze or oil on the

*outside* surface of the sensor can kill it. See how does an

Oxygen sensor work.

 

Will testing the O2 sensor hurt it?

 

Almost always, the answer is no. You must be careful to not

*apply* voltage to the sensor, but measuring it's output voltage

is not harmful. As noted by other posters, a cheap voltmeter

will not be accurate, but will cause no damage. This is *not*

true if you try to measure the resistance of the sensor.

Resistance measurements send voltage into a circuit and check the

amount returning.

 

How does an O2 sensor work?

 

An Oxygen sensor is a chemical generator. It is constantly making

a comparison between the Oxygen inside the exhaust manifold and air

outside the engine. If this comparison shows little or no

Oxygen in the exhaust manifold, a voltage is generated. The

output of the sensor is usually between 0 and 1.1 volts. All

spark combustion engines need the proper air fuel ratio to

operate correctly. For gasoline this is 14.7 parts of air to one

part of fuel. When the engine has more fuel than needed, all

available Oxygen is consumed in the cylinder and gasses leaving

through the exhaust contain almost no Oxygen. This sends out a

voltage greater than 0.45 volts. If the engine is running lean,

all fuel is burned, and the extra Oxygen leaves the cylinder and

flows into the exhaust. In this case, the sensor voltage goes

lower than 0.45 volts. Usually the output range seen seen is

0.2 to 0.7 volts.

 

The sensor does not begin to generate it's full output until it

reaches about 600 degrees F. Prior to this time the sensor is

not conductive. It is as if the circuit between the sensor and

computer is not complete. The mid point is about 0.45 volts.

This is neither rich nor lean. A fully warm O2 sensor *will not

spend any time at 0.45 volts*. In many cars, the computer sends

out a bias voltage of 0.45 through the O2 sensor wire. If the

sensor is not warm, or if the circuit is not complete, the computer

picks up a steady 0.45 volts. Since the computer knows this is

an "illegal" value, it judges the sensor to not be ready. It

remains in open loop operation, and uses all sensors except the

O2 to determine fuel delivery. Any time an engine is operated

in open loop, it runs somewhat rich and makes more exhaust

emissions. This translates into lost power, poor fuel economy

and air pollution.

 

The O2 sensor is constantly in a state of transition between high

and low voltage. Manfucturers call this crossing of the 0.45

volt mark O2 cross counts. The higher the number of O2 cross

counts, the better the sensor and other parts of the computer

control system are working. It is important to remember that the

O2 sensor is comparing the amount of Oxygen inside and outside

the engine. If the outside of the sensor should become blocked,

or coated with oil, sound insulation, undercoating or antifreeze,

(among other things), this comparison is not possible.

 

How can I test my O2 sensor?

 

They can be tested both in the car and out. If you have a high

impedence volt meter, the procedure is fairly simple. It will

help you to have some background on the way the sensor does

it's job. Read how does an O2 sensor work first.

 

Testing O2 sensors that are installed

 

The engine must first be fully warm. If you have a defective

thermostat, this test may not be possible due to a minimum

temperature required for closed loop operation. Attach the

positive lead of a high impedence DC voltmeter to the Oxygen

sensor output wire. This wire should remain attached to the

computer. You will have to back probe the connection or use

a jumper wire to get access. The negative lead should be

attached to a good clean ground on the engine block or

accessory bracket. Cheap voltmeters will not give accurate

results because they load down the circuit and absorb the

voltage that they are attempting to measure. A acceptable

value is 1,000,000 ohms/volt or more on the DC voltage.

Most (if not all) digital voltmeters meet this need. Few

(if any) non-powered analog (needle style) voltmeters do.

Check the specs for your meter to find out. Set your meter

to look for 1 volt DC. Many late model cars use a heated

O2 sensor. These have either two or three wires instead of

one. Heated sensors will have 12 volts on one lead, ground

on the other, and the sensor signal on the third. If you have

two or three wires, use a 15 or higher volt scale on the meter

until you know which is the sensor output wire.

 

When you turn the key on, do not start the engine. You should

see a change in voltage on the meter in most late model cars. If

not, check your connections. Next, check your leads to make sure

you won't wrap up any wires in the belts, etc. then start the

engine. You should run the engine above 2000 rpm for two

minutes to warm the O2 sensor and try to get into closed loop.

Closed loop operation is indicated by the sensor showing several

cross counts per second. It may help to rev the engine between

idle and about 3000 rpm several times. The computer recognizes

the sensor as hot and active once there are several cross counts.

 

You are looking for voltage to go above and below 0.45 volts.

If you see less than 0.2 and more than 0.7 volts and the value

changes rapidly, you are through, your sensor is good. If not,

is it steady high (> 0.45) near 0.45 or steady low (< 0.45).

If the voltage is near the middle, you may not be hot yet. Run

the engine above 2000 rpm again. If the reading is steady low,

add richness by partially closing the choke or adding some propane

through the air intake. Be very careful if you work with any

extra gasoline, you can easily be burned or have an explosion.

If the voltage now rises above 0.7 to 0.9, and you can change it

at will by changing the extra fuel, the O2 sensor is usually good.

 

If the voltage is steady high, create a vacuum leak. Try pulling

the PCV valve out of it's hose and letting air enter. You can

also use the power brake vacuum supply hose. If this drives the

voltage to 0.2 to 0.3 or less and you can control it at will by

opening and closing the vacuum leak, the sensor is usually good.

 

If you are not able to make a change either way, stop the engine,

unhook the sensor wire from the computer harness, and reattach

your voltmeter to the sensor output wire. Repeat the rich and

lean steps. If you can't get the sensor voltage to change, and

you have a good sensor and ground connection, try heating it once

more. Repeat the rich and lean steps. If still no voltage or

fixed voltage, you have a bad sensor.

 

If you are not getting a voltage and the car has been running

rich lately, the sensor may be carbon fouled. It is sometimes

possible to clean a sensor in the car. Do this by unplugging

the sensor harness, warming up the engine, and creating a lean

condition at about 2000 rpm for 1 or 2 minutes. Create a big

enough vacuum leak so that the engine begins to slow down.

The extra heat will clean it off if possible. If not, it

was dead anyway, no loss. In either case, fix the cause of the

rich mixture and retest. If you don't, the new sensor will

fail.

 

Testing O2 sensors on the workbench.

 

Use a high impedence DC voltmeter as above. Clamp the sensor in

a vice, or use a plier or vice-grip to hold it. Clamp your

negative voltmeter lead to the case, and the positive to the

output wire. Use a propane torch set to high and the inner blue

flame tip to heat the fluted or perforated area of the sensor.

You should see a DC voltage of at least 0.6 within 20 seconds.

If not, most likely cause is open circuit internally or lead

fouling. If OK so far, remove from flame. You should see a

drop to under 0.1 volt within 4 seconds. If not likely silicone

fouled. If still OK, heat for two full minutes and watch for

drops in voltage. Sometimes, the internal connections will open

up under heat. This is the same a loose wire and is a failure.

If the sensor is OK at this point, and will switch from high to

low quickly as you move the flame, the sensor is good. Bear in

mind that good or bad is relative, with port fuel injection

needing faster information than carbureted systems.

 

ANY O2 sensor that will generate 0.9 volts or more when heated,

show 0.1 volts or less within one second of flame removal, AND

pass the two minute heat test is good regardless of age. When

replacing a sensor, don't miss the opportunity to use the test

above on the replacement. This will calibrate your evaluation

skills and save you money in the future. There is almost always

*no* benefit in replacing an oxygen sensor that will pass the

test in the first line of this paragraph.

[Guest requin]

mersi, nu credeam ca are importanta majora dar vad ca nu e de aruncat:)

faza e ca de cate ori dau cu toba de pamant (putin mai tare) face figuri masina si mecanicu` zicea ca e posibil sa fie de la sonda lambda dar nu are rost sa desfaca tot sistemu ca sa aflam si deci am zis sa mai cer ceva opinii si sa stiu clar daca ma apuc sa fac treaba si pe la sonda aia sau nu

dar cred ca e o idee buna s-o verific macar sa stiu daca ea face figuri sau nu...

Edited December 14, 2005 by requin