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de ceva timp am obs ca pedala de frina are o cursa mai mare,asta de cind am schimbat placutele de frina <_< ....deci frina acum tine foarte jos.aseara,am tras frina de mina(care nu tine deloc cum ar trebui) si aveam iar o cursa normala,frina tinea mult mai bine.intrebarea mea este:se poate regla cumva cursa sabotilor spate pt ai apropia de tamburi?a mai avut cineva prob asta?
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eu am schimbat placutele cam de 2 luni,de fapt mai concludent,am cam 1000 de km de atunci.totusi pedala este foarte moale....cum trag frina de mina,totul e ok.tine bine,chiar foarte bine.or fii si sabotii uzati?

 

lichidul e ok,discurile bunicele spre bune:).o sa incerc totusi sa apropii sabotii de tamburi,sper ca asa sa-si revina.

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de ceva timp am obs ca pedala de frina are o cursa mai mare,asta de cind am schimbat placutele de frina <_< ....deci frina acum tine foarte jos.aseara,am tras frina de mina(care nu tine deloc cum ar trebui) si aveam iar o cursa normala,frina tinea mult mai bine.intrebarea mea este:se poate regla cumva cursa sabotilor spate pt ai apropia de tamburi?a mai avut cineva prob asta?

 

 

Over the years, the parking brake on your BMW may become unadjusted and fail to perform properly. The adjustment of the brake shoes is an easy process, and shouldn’t take you more than an hour to accomplish.

The first step is to raise the rear of the car and remove the two road wheels. This will allow you access to the rear calipers. Make sure that the parking brake lever is released. Using a screwdriver, push back slightly on the brake pads until the brake disc is allowed to turn freely on its spindle. Be careful to check the fluid level in the master cylinder reservoir, as pushing the pads back will make the fluid level rise and may cause it to overflow.

Once the brake disc can be moved easily, move to the cockpit of the car, lift up the handbrake boot, and loosen the two nuts that attach the handbrake cable to the inside of the brake mechanism (Figure 1 and Figure 2).

 

If there is any pretension on these cables, then it will be difficult to adjust the handbrake. The adjustment of the parking brake shoes is accomplished by turning a small gear or sprocket with a screwdriver. Unfortunately, this sprocket can only be reached through one of the lug nut holes in the brake disc.

Rotate the brake disc until you can see the small adjusting sprocket through the lug nut hole (Figure 3).

You may need a flashlight for this procedure. Reaching in through the hole, use a screwdriver to rotate the cog until the parking brake shoe is tight and the rotor can no longer be rotated. A glimpse of what the cog looks like with the brake rotor removed is shown in Figure 4.

If you are working on the right side of the car, you need to turn the cog towards the front of the car to tighten the brake shoes. If you are working on the left side of the car, you need to rotate the cog to the rear of the car to expand the shoes. If you are turning the sprocket a lot, and the brake disc isn’t tightening up, then you are probably turning it the in the wrong direction. Repeat this procedure for the opposite side of the car. After you have the sprockets adjusted so that the brake shoes have just pressed up against the inside of the disc, and you can no longer turn the disc, back them off until the disc can spin.

Now move back to the cockpit of the car, and pull up on the hand brake several times to help seat the cables. Finally, pull up on the hand brake so that the ratchet clicks through four notches. Now, tighten up the cables using the nuts at the bottom of the handbrake lever (Figure 5).

Tighten each of these nuts to the point where there is just a bit of slight resistance each respective wheel. Now, release the lever and verify that the wheels turn freely. The brake discs should be free to rotate with the handle in the down position, but fully locked by the time that the handbrake is pulled up a few notches past the four clicks.

When you are finished, recheck the master cylinder reservoir, and also step on the brake pedal a few times in order to make sure that the pistons have repositioned themselves properly against the brake pads. Also verify that the parking brake lamp on the dashboard illuminates as soon as the handle is pulled up.

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Palle Bo Madsen adds the following tip:

Due to the fact that everybody only uses the emergency brake as a parking brake, the brakedrum gets rusty inside, at least in the wet and cold season/climate.

When You then try to adjust or brake it in, the rust becomes a glassy layer on the inside of the drum and on the brake shoes. This glass like layer has very little friction, so You can't stop the car with the emergency brake, but only use it as a parking brake.

 

Remedy: The BMW workshop changes the disc, the brakeshoes and the brakepads...

I use sanding paper either by a rotating machine or by hand to remove the rusty and or glass like layer from the inside of the drum and the brake shoes. Then I put it back together, adjust it with the cogwheel as You have described it and then run the emergency brake in. Now it is working as it should...

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trebuie schimbat din toata instalatia din 2 in 2 ani?

 

da !..exact la fel am patit si eu dupa un schimb placute .pedala moale cam 1 luna ..Am schimbat lichid si s-a rezolvat ! e in jur de 150 ron un schimb de lichid la service Filaret , dureaza cam 30 min

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trebuie schimbat din toata instalatia din 2 in 2 ani?

asa cum spunea si Ciupanezu care le stie aproape pe toate in ciuda varstei(vorbesc serios) lichidul trebuie schimbat la max 2 ani.DE CE?

pt ca asa spune in cartea service.gasesti in autovit ATE 1litru 23 ron.eu am folosit ATE si TRW si am fost multumit de amandoua.

lichidul de frana schimbat la timp protejeaza garniturile de la pistonase si asigura franarea de care ai nevoie,adica cea probabil cu care te-ai obisnuit.daca nu ai facut bine aerisirea e grav!!!just bleed.....

nu uita sa aerisesti si slave cilinder(cilindru de la cutie)

IMPORTANT:lichidul de frana e foarte coroziv,in timp ce se pune lichid in vas mai curge si pe fire,plasticuri,vopseaua masinii....spala bine cu multa apa dupa.

bafta!

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asa cum spunea si Ciupanezu care le stie aproape pe toate in ciuda varstei(vorbesc serios) lichidul trebuie schimbat la max 2 ani.DE CE?

pt ca asa spune in cartea service.gasesti in autovit ATE 1litru 23 ron.eu am folosit ATE si TRW si am fost multumit de amandoua.

lichidul de frana schimbat la timp protejeaza garniturile de la pistonase si asigura franarea de care ai nevoie,adica cea probabil cu care te-ai obisnuit.daca nu ai facut bine aerisirea e grav!!!just bleed.....

nu uita sa aerisesti si slave cilinder(cilindru de la cutie)

IMPORTANT:lichidul de frana e foarte coroziv,in timp ce se pune lichid in vas mai curge si pe fire,plasticuri,vopseaua masinii....spala bine cu multa apa dupa.

bafta!

 

<_<

 

Lichidul trebuie schimbat pentru cĂŁ este higroscopic adicĂŁ absoarbe umezeala, apa.

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inseamna ca am 2 probleme...una legata de saboti care sigur trebuie reglati,apropiati cumva de tamburi si una cu lichidul de frina.eu din octombrie am luat masina,nu am idee daca cineva i-a schimbat lichidul vreodata deci sigur trebuie sa o fac eu.sper ca dupa ce fac cele 2 operatii sa-si revina,e foarte greu sa nu-ti tina frina:((
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nu e mare chestie.dute la un service si se rezolva in maxim o ora. dak ai sabotii buni si nu treb reglati ai mai sus postat cum se regleaza cursa franei de mana. eu la bmw nu am schimbat decat discurile si placutele si sabotii i-am verificat doar . insa am avut un opel vectra si am avut aceeasi problema cu lichidul de frana si cu sabotii.spor la treaba

si inca ceva. eu dupa ce am schimbat lichidul de frana mi s-a intarit pedala si parca s-a inaltat un pic, adica era mult mai ferma. nu te costa mult operatiunea asta

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  • 3 weeks later...
am reusit simbata sa ma ocup de frine....am dat roata dreapta spate jos si am avut surpriza sa nu gasesc acel reglaj din poza 4,pur si simplu la mine nu exista.am reusit sa intaresc putin pedala din reglajele de la frina de mina,cele din masina.in fine,trebuie neaparat sa ajung la un service cu ea.nu circul zi de zi cu ea,de acea am aminat atit.
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Loool ... nu faci aerisire pt ca nu ai umlbat la sistemul de franare si chiar nu ai de ce, te complici degeaba si risti sa rupi ceva fara rost.

Pozele date de voi sunt pt frana pe discuri, omul daca nu ma insel a pronuntat cuvantul "tamburi" prin frazele alea.

 

Si rezolvarea problemei, se regleaza sabotii de frana din spate(singurii de fapt, pe fata nu umbli la nimic). Normal acum sunt prea departati de tamburi si trebuie sa apesi pedala de frana mult pana ajung sa faca contact cu tamburul.

Se regleaza pana se apropie la milimetri de tamburi si cand pui tamburul si invarti cu mana sa mearga usor si sa atinga foarte putin ... sa nu fie nici prea infranat.

Am avut dacie si m-am chinuit multi ani cu franele pe tamburi, sa vezi bucurie cand trebuie sa reglezi ferodourile si ai tamburii ovalizati <_<)

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Loool ... nu faci aerisire pt ca nu ai umlbat la sistemul de franare si chiar nu ai de ce, te complici degeaba si risti sa rupi ceva fara rost.

Pozele date de voi sunt pt frana pe discuri, omul daca nu ma insel a pronuntat cuvantul "tamburi" prin frazele alea.

 

Si rezolvarea problemei, se regleaza sabotii de frana din spate(singurii de fapt, pe fata nu umbli la nimic). Normal acum sunt prea departati de tamburi si trebuie sa apesi pedala de frana mult pana ajung sa faca contact cu tamburul.

Se regleaza pana se apropie la milimetri de tamburi si cand pui tamburul si invarti cu mana sa mearga usor si sa atinga foarte putin ... sa nu fie nici prea infranat.

Am avut dacie si m-am chinuit multi ani cu franele pe tamburi, sa vezi bucurie cand trebuie sa reglezi ferodourile si ai tamburii ovalizati <_<)

Corect!

Du-te la un service,nu te juca cu franele.Sau vrei sa se joace ele cu tine?

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Vezi ca tamburii trebuie reglati, mai intai dai drumurile la suruburile de la frana de mana, apoi trebuie sa mai dai drumul la saboti, ca sa se apropie mai tare de tambur, apoi iti reglezi frana de mana din nou.

Toata treba asta nu are cum sa dureze mai mult de o ora.

 

Si da, pedala e mult mai moale, daca tamburii sau ferodourile sunt uzate, chiar daca ai discuri bune si placute bune pe fata.

La fel e si la mine, i-am mai apropiat, insa foarte curand trebuie sa schimb totul pe spate.

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eu am incercat sa-i apropii cumva de la roata,am cautat acolo un ghidaj ceva,dar nu exista!singura posibilitate sa-i reglez e din masina,de la frina de mina.sint 2 suruburi acolo,l-am mai strins putin piulitele si vad ca e ok acum.tu cum ai reusit sa apropii sabotii de tamburi?tot asa?precizez ca eu am modelul compact,am inteles ca e sistemul de frinare cel putin pe spate de la e30.asa am citit pe aici.

 

saboti sint noi,nu i-am mai schimbat desi am mai cumparat un set......

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Se poate, in mod sigur, am facut eu la mine, am tot tamburi pe spate.

Nu-i regla din frana de mana.

 

Asa ceva... http://www.bimmerdiy.com/diy/e36brakesystem/

Numai ca la mine parca difera putin fata de ce e in pozele astea.

 

Off-topic: Cat te-au ajuns sabotii si tamburii?

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simbata o sa-i dau jos iar,o sa fac o poza la tot angrenajul roti.poate sa fie,eu nu am vazut nimic,nu stiu ce sa mai spun.nu am cumparat decit sabotii,i-am luat de la auto-karma,106 ron.au preturi bune,adineauri m-am intors de la ei,mi-am luat si o visco-cupla,e timpul s-o schimb,cind e cald sau stau mai mult la semafor fierbe motorul.....

 

la mine nu am vazut piulita asta care apare si in pozele de la tine pt reglajul sabotilor.asa era simplu iti dai seama,ii reglam numai decit.in fine,o sa revin simbata cu poze.

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